Originally Posted by
zeppinger
I decided against the Sojourn because it seems really pricey for what you get. Dont worry too much about the inclusion of a saddle/fenders/rack. Any touring bike will readily accept theses things and you can get a good deal on them if you buy them at the same time as your bike. The brooks "pre-aged" saddle is stupid imho. For half the price you can have the good ole b17. pre-aged leather is the equivalent of paying $100 for a pair of jeans that are brand new with holes in them, you gotta do the work yourself
The fenders on the Sojourn hit my toe all the time and the handlebars look sweet but are not that comfy on long rides. I would check out a Surly Long Haul Trucker, Novara Rondonee, or Jamis Aurora.
None of which have disc brakes. My guess is that most people who don't have a preference, aren't going to buy a disc brake bike. Someone would be looking at the Sojourn because they do have a preference, at least small one.
Either I'm missing your logic, or you just don't like the bike in general. Ok, so the brooks, according to you, is $50 overpriced, and the rack does have value even if how much that is is up for debate. Fenders hit your shoes... sucks to be short I guess. Anyway, you seem to rip this bike as overpriced, then recommend the LHT which has a) no brooks b) no fenders c) no rack and d) costs about $50 less.
I'm not denying your right to dislike the bike, I just not following the reasons you're giving.