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Old 08-06-08 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hobojo
well if you really need some reasons why shimano is shockingly bad then here they are:

1. gear cables get in the way of tri bars
1. who wants clip on aero bars anyway. Aerobars need to be run with bar ends in the aerobars, and Shimano makes a very nice set of them.

2. lots of people use clip ons and STI without issue

3. If it really bugs you wait for Dura Ace 7900.

Originally Posted by hobojo
2. very disposable compared to campy (only lasts at top quality for about 10,000 km, where as campy record can last up to 50,000 kms)
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I've got a 1998 Dura Ace Group wth a least 50,000 Kms that still runs great.



Originally Posted by hobojo
3. hyperglide cassette is awesome for the first 200 km then it is really clunky (campy is more of a positive click to change gears, where as shimano is more of a negative and inacurate thud)
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If your cassettes arre deteriorating in 200km, something is seriously wrong.

And I guess that positive click to Campy is why they had to come out with different springs in the brifters for pros who wanted a positive click.



Originally Posted by hobojo
4. integrated rear down gear and brake is annoying because the brake is easily engaged when changing gears.
Lacking a bit in coordination?

Also being able to easily brake and shift simultaneously is quite a nice feature, both riding in traffic (i.e. stop lights, and racing crits.

Originally Posted by hobojo
5. if back pedalled all sorts of weird things may happen (skipping gears and losing chain on front ring) and ive been a bike mechanic for 2 years so its the groups wear and tear that have caused this not my gear tuning ability.
Yet this doesn't happen to others. So of course it has nothing to do with your adjustment.

Originally Posted by hobojo
so there it is, 5 reasons why i hate shimano.
You prefer Campy to Shimano. Your opinion, and one you're entitled to. But to say Shimano sucks is a bit over the top, and reasons such as the cassettes wear out in 200km are just silly.
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