Two years ago I got some great ski gloves at a discount sporting goods store. They are called Kombi. They were wonderful, and they were in the bargain bin--$10! But I lost one, so I thought I would spring for some Pearl Izumi lobster gloves. They are okay, but not as good as the Kombi gloves, and definitely more expensive. I still have the remaining Kombi in hopes that the other one will show up (unlikely, since I've moved).