I have them and like them. An old set 04 and an 08 set. I found NOS protons for my lugged steel to keep w/ the look. G3 is not for all builds. I also love the new campy wheels because the no rim tape factor. It seems any tire slides right on them. I always felt limited on tire selection w/ some wheels. Last thing I need is a fight with a back tire 30 miles from home. Sad reason for wheel selection but true. lol