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Old 08-08-08 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by HiYoSilver
The biggest advantage of CF is price, mass production. The biggest disadvantage of CF is no warning of pending stress failure. The biggest advantage of TI is durability. The biggest disadvantage of TI is price.

Beyond that, for me the Ti ride seems better to me. More predictable and not as harsh as CF. It just differs a lot on the bike, the geometry and your body geometry.

Have fun, and let us know what you end up with.
Here is Seven's pricing chart from their website as one data point. I have not found high end carbon frames inexpensive. To the contrary, I have found them more expensive than Ti, Al or steel but comparable to Bamboo (Calfee). However finding the most expensive or cheapest material is not the point. The chart is hard to read but the first number is the price of the frame only.

Model Material Frame Only Bike as-shown Estimated price range**
Diamas A6™ High-modulus Carbon $4,995 $11,2500 $7,500 - $15,200+
V.II A6™ Multi-modulus Carbon $4,395 $12,700 $7,100 - $14,600+
Elium SG Cirrus TC™ Ti & Carbon $3,995 $12,000 $6,500 - $14,000+
Elium Race Argen TC™ Ti & Carbon $4,690* $9,500 $7,000 - $14,500+
Aerios Cirrus™ Ultra-butted Ti $3,595 $9,900 $6,200 - $13,500+
Triad A6™ Multi-modulus Carbon $3,595 $8,900 $5,900 - $12,500+
ID8 Argen TC™ Ti & Carbon $3,395 $10,000 $5,900 - $12,500+
Axiom SG Argen ™ Butted Ti $3,195 $7,900 $5,500 - $12,000+
Axiom Race Argen ™ Butted Ti $3,890* $8,700 $6,000 - $12,500+
Luma Intergrity TC™ Ti & Carbon $3,095 $6,500 $5,100 - $9,600+
Alaris Intergrity 325™ straight-gauge Ti $2,395 $6,300 $4,400 - $8,600+
Axiom Steel Origin™ Butted steel $1,795 $4,900 $3,700 - $7,600+
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