i sense you're not sure what exactly you're looking for from this forum, maybe thats why you're finding it hard to find your answer. You say you've got a lot of biking experience, i'm surprised it didn't flow over to your situation now trying to purchase a SS bike. Maybe you're just not sure about the purchase and looking for motivations here. I mean you're going to find it also loose it from a forum like this.

Here's my opinion of BD and those bikes. I got a bike from BD, a dawest last week and I"ve been impressed by the service (speed of delivery) and product (the bike) that i've received from them. The bike is a great bike for the money. and i'm sure the messenger is one too.

With all these entry level SS bikes, you're not going to get a Pista Concept type of definitive YES. The Dawest, the mess, the Kilos are always going to have pros and cons. And i feel the forum's pain, ever since i started to look for a bike from BD, every other day i see a new thread trying to compare or praise one bike over the other and eventually coming back full circle that these bikes are pretty much all a like. All these threads accomplish is "nickel and dime" these bikes and i think to be honestly, they're all quite a big waste of time. They're all the same and yet all very different.