Thanks Again! I really was not looking for validation. I know that it is a $400 bike. I just hate to see a product get flames because they are inexpensive or not zoot enough. I just want good solid feedback from those that actualy ride the bike. My mind is made up anyway. I'm going to order a messenger today. If it turns out terrible.....So what? I've spent more and recieved less on a wheel set that wont stay true. Damn they were lite though! I still think that BD needs to be commended for bringing quality bikes at a reasonable price to the masses. Same bike at any LBS runs $200-$250 more! Thanks again!