Originally Posted by Sinn

Look. Surly hubs are a risky buy. Some will work fine, some will not.

If you want spin, and you are into taking good care of your wheels and you don't have ride in the rain much (or ever! Welcome to SoCal!), then buy hubs without cartridge bearings. They spin up so much faster and, no matter what some road riders here may say, they do make a difference in the quality of the ride on the road.