^^^^ i paid $165 plus shipping for mine. at that price it was a no brainer for me to make the jump to bibs and give them a try. i have a pair of the Assos Equippes too (Mille Chamois), which are great for the really long hauls. to round out my bib collection i picked up some PI Ultrasensors. wow, what a difference. after the 30 mile mark the PI's really start to attack my junk. seriously.
later.