Originally Posted by
Road Fan
People are trying to share their ideas. No body needs your negativity. Everyone wants your thoughts and experiences.
If you don't think metallurgy is a valid science, why hasn't the Golden Gate Bridge fallen down or gone noodly yet? Its materials are really really similar to those in your Vicini-built frame and it's much older.
Road Fan
I understand.
But what got us here, is total disrespect for wisdom from those older and more experienced than us.
I do believe that theory always has to be verified in the field.
In this case, we're not talking about the golden gate bridge, but of thin-walled bicycle tubing, and what experienced riders have as experience with them.
The day that Bernard Hinault or Gred Lemond or one of the old-school guys throws the book of metallurgy at me, I'll bow out gracefully. But it is those very professionals that report frames fatiguing... and they had access to illimited-budget frame-building.
And I know when to set aside theory and give a little respect to those who have gone farther than myself, who have more experience than myself, and who have perhaps experienced things that cannot be measured.
"Not everything that counts can be measured. And not everything that can be measured counts."
--Albert Einstein.