Originally Posted by
dutret
the steelman that you compare the speedvagen to is $2800. It's still expensive but it's $700 less. And there are plenty of builders that can do the same thing for even less than that. I've ridden on high end steel bikes and I bet that in a blind test none of you would perform better than chance in distinguishing builders.
There is an entire cross community that races his frames who would disagree with you, but you're entitled to your opinion.
I have raced many custom frames in the last 20 years, and I certainly can tell the difference between the frames I have raced on. That said, I LOVE my ten year old Surly, crosscheck. BUT...I love my Steelman even more fifty minutes into a Cat A cross race.