[QUOTE=dutret;7496852]You really think you could tell the difference between two bikes made with equivalent tubing and geometry? Yeah sure different builders will do slightly different things with the butting but really it doesn't make all that much of a difference. Builders can build drastically different frames but if you say I want something like this steelman you're not going to get something all that different.[/QUOTE]

Funny you mention... When Brent stopped building frames in 06 (he has since started back) several racers I know had "other" builders copy his design, and tubing exactly to replace old frames. NONE of them were happy with the end result. Brent knows how to make a Steelman, a Steelman.

I think he's a witch.


(edit) These racers wanted a Steelman, that's why they weren't happy. The replacement frames were awesome, and rode perfect, they just weren't what the riders had in mind.