you have a lot of gal to call mike out in an open forum and agree that if you have a hone to pick you pm him directly. If people are satisfied with the quality of the bikes & with the names being brought out and rights to use them on the bikes then so be it. Be it manufactured @ the original company's plant or @ another plant, if it bares the same, then it is one. That is like saying a fender squire is not a fender because it is made in Mexico. Or as Epiphone is not a Gibson since the Gibson company bought them out