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Old 09-25-08 | 12:17 PM
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Flimflam
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Originally Posted by iherald
"Somebody has to tell Mayor David Miller and his green friends that biking is a hobby and that most people don't want to risk their lives to ride to work in an urban setting so he can get his face on the cover of another environmental magazine."

I would agree with this in part. People don't want to risk their lives riding to work, but that's the reason we need MORE bike paths not fewer. I ride down Sherbourne which has bad roads rather than Jarvis, which has nicer pavement, because Sherbourne has a bike lane. And the people on this board are not average citizens when it comes to riding bikes.
Agreed. I can totally understand people not wanting to drive in the crazy traffic, we need more bike lanes to encourage those less-confident folks out. Admittedly there are a lot of folks riding already, it'd be great to have less cars in the core to get more people out on bikes/TTC.

I don't think bikelanes are the total solution to traffic/congestion, and I agreed in parts with the article re: throwing an extra bus or two on the route at peak hours to relieve bus-crowding/congestion - if the TTC was more comfortable and reliable/timely - I'm sure more people would take it. Some folks that have cars make the choice to drive because there's no reasonable (in their eyes) alternative. 25 years is a long time to wait for apparently better transportation infrastructure, I'm sure there are things than can be done now/sooner.

I'm a sinner and listen to Dean Blundell in the mornings, but they had Mayor Miller on the other morning, and he basically said he's attempting to make it more difficult for cars to get around/be downtown to try and force people to make the choice. I can't see it ever happening, but a core congestion charge for motor vehicles during the weekday business hours would be neat and a great source of revenue (I'd bet it'd piss a lot of people off and thus never happen).

I used to take Sherbourne between Bloor and Richmond when I lived in the east end. Having a bit more experience and confidence I now avoid it - the road surface is just terrible in places (heading South, at least) - though I would prefer the road itself than Jarvis - which seems like a grand prix at times (this is one light I have to watch more carefully when crossing at Carlton, lots of amber/red runners from my experience). I personally head over to Parliament now which hasn't got a great surface heading southbound north of Wellesley, but otherwise pretty decent. That's between Carlton and Bloor though as I prefer College/Carlton to other roads for my east/west route.
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