Well, look, the man had a certain bicycle (it was not in his mind), and it had some features he loved, and wants to find one like it. The only name he knows for it is one that was never well defined, it was 8/10 marketing, 1.5/10 bike sales floor crap (yes,even the hippie sales staff in Chicago were full of it!), and the rest the owner's word for things. There may have been some common understanding of what it was, but maybe except for me (55 yo) and a few others, nobody remembers that it existed, or certainly what it meant. So the fact remains the man wants a bicycle with some specifiec characteristics. In an early post he asked if someone has a copy of Talbot's to loan, but the think is his description of his dream does not match what Talbot was designing, essentially a CONI-pattern bike, today we'd see it as more of a sport-tourer (now this is kinda what I want!!!). Turns out it's upright, steep, tight, et cetera, probably a high BB with toe overlap. Can't any frame builder use some of that customer-schmoozing skill to steer him to a bike he would like? or would like you to build for him?