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Old 10-11-08 | 10:11 AM
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Bikes: 2011 Cinelli Histogram, 2008 Redline 925, 1986 Haro Master (original owner, too!), GT (mtn/off-road. It's old. Don't know the model name)

Originally Posted by onetwentyeight
pista has true track geometry. steep seat tube angle, head tube angle and short rake to the fork. this makes it a fast sprinter, and has very agile (or twitchy depending on your point of view handling). It puts you in a relatively agressive riding position.

The mark v is the other extreme. It has geometry similar to that of a standard road bike, which makes it a little more street friendly. it does keep the short wheelbase of the pista though (longer wheelbase = stability, shorter wheelbase= more maneuverability.

The surly has geometry half between road and track, and as a bonus has fatties fit fine. (large tires fit generously. which can be fun.) My main complaint is its made with 4130 tubing which is pretty heavy.

the kilo has a really long wheelbase, but steep angles (only the pista is steeper). I think thats just kinda weird.

my recommendation would be the pista if you want true track geometry, or the surly or iro if you want something a little more street friendly.
Thanks very much. That is the exact type of info each frame I was looking for. I do want something that is more agile, and was leaning against the Kilo for the exact reason. Current bike as a wheelbase of 101. The Kilo is 99. The others are down in the 96/97 range. Thanks again.

EDIT: thanks for the geo link, too.
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