You guys sound vindicated because you found a builder that has an option for "criterium geometry", but what does this mean? Steepen the head angle by 1 degree and raise the bottom bracket by 5 mm? Fairly minor changes. Do we need a seperate frame category for this kind of frame?

High bottom bracket frames are nice for pedaling through corners but they don't turn as nice as a low bottom bracket frame because the CG is higher.

I still don't understand what the goal of this thread is anyway? Prove their is something called "criterium geometry" or design a frame that turns and handles well?