thanks Air! HG - i'm not looking to hammer on any ride up there, casual all the way. i'm going to see if i can fit all 3 bikes in the car...that way i have the good road bike, the nice beater bike and the cx bike for any kinds of stuff that isn't paved. and, by that week, i'll be ready for an easy week of riding since i'm starting my training season 10/27 and will have had 4 really hard weeks of training at that point..