Well, I've been a bit lazy too, so I haven't read every post -- some of them are REALLY long.
Told ya that Geneman was smart; I especially liked his story about his pet rock.

Seems the original question was something about black athletes of East African descent (Ethiopia, esp) being any good at road riding if they really tried, but the "discussion" has morphed (typically) into
an argument about racial steroetypes, with some people unwilling to concede that there are any
physiological differences at all between people from different continents.

I plan on getting into it later, and post a long, referenced message that will hopefully
convince some of the less scientific types here to maybe, slightly alter their views.