ROTFL! YES! Glad someone finally understands!!!

And about the GIOS, that's exactly what I was starting to think too. I think I may have seen you back in the day... there weren't many of those GIOS bikes around, and I remember noticing one.

I don't really "need" one... just sick of my canondale...
once I got the frame geometry, I was intending on either buying if I got a great deal, or just outright making it myself out of carbon fiber.

For the moment, I'm embarking on making some carbon fiber recumbents... when I have some free time, if I haven't found a Cambio Rino or GIOS at a great price, I'll just make it.

The Marinoni is whas conform to conventional racing geometry as outlined in Cinelli's 1972 Cycling bible, and 90% of today's racing bikes on the market today are identical to that. NOTHING has changed, although our roads got better, allowing for more aggressive geometry, as outlined by the man himself who laid out those geometry guidelines back in '72.

Thank you for your support! Glad to hear from someone else who saw the light. ;-)

Where are you now? Still in Montreal?

PS: I just reassembled my track bike, but made it road-ready this time, as I mentioned... there IS something nice about an old lugged handmade frame that is sort of irresistible... I ordered a singlespeed wheelset for it... not sure what I should do with it now. Decisions decisions...