yea the seem pretty nice, there is no wear on the break area. like they were swaped pretty recently after new, just some road dirt (or maybe garage dirt!) and the rear has a decent continental tire on it! you say that if they are laced to good hubs? well are the stock hubs any good? thats what is on it. and i dont have anyway of measuring mm at the moment..(side question: best place to get bike tools for the cheapest?) what size is the stock hub (no markings anywhere) or were there different options??