Originally Posted by
Triguy
Should we start with aerodynamics 101? ...... However, I can't tell you what the exact effect with a rider on is but most testing shows that very few bikes test different with/without a rider.
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so do you disagree with softride's testing protocol but acknowledge that it makes no difference? i'm no physics major but i think the inclusion of a person on a bike, its legs moving very close to seat stays and seat tubes, would cause turbulence around those tubes. maybe not, but i can see it happening. and you're also not commenting on the comfort aspect, which, in triathlon is up there in the heirachy of frame performance gotta-haves... ESPECIALLY for those of us (and i mean pretty much all of us) who arent averaging over 35kph in a race.... honestly, who here is ripping sub 5hour ironman bike splits and wasting time looking at this forum? i think most of those dudes are out there training

be comfy, aero is secondary. softrides are fast and worth a look.