I could careless really but the guy at my track with a 2 foot scar up his stomach from a broken chain at the gate might suggest a stronger rather than lighter chain.
my frame is 5oz. lighter than his and my forks are 1.6oz lighter,brakes are lighter, my cranks are shorter,
tires are lighter, rims lighter, not sure about the hubs but I'm sure with Ti cassette, but maybe his cog is lighter.my seat post is chopped.
I don't have bar ends.

I just don't see how he could get it down 2 pounds. jealous, no I would like to see it. I can tell we have similar thoughts and dollars when it come to building a bike and I love his bike think it the Tits.
but to build a pro xl or larger to hold up a bigger guy lighter than 20lbs I want to see it done.

Hey Vert1go I'm not dissing you, I respect you, I'm just curious.
so if you think I'm a dick my apologies.