Dude they are great wheels....the tool who said that they are not light by todays standards is drunk....Compare weight & strength and get back to me, who makes a lighter wheel and at what price.. some .$500 wheels weigh more than my Rolphs.. Just be careful the rear hub on some models had a history of cracking. it the guy did not pound them they should be golden. but you want to be sure. I have been riding mine as a primary wheel for 5-6 years now...Solid fast..