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Old 11-17-08 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by eucarya
I thought the Sugino XD was a road double crank with the smaller ring removed by Ben's not a MTB crank?
The XD started out as a mountain triple but after a few years Sugino also released a double version. The XD "Track" is just a double with one ring.
Originally Posted by Thatotherguy84
This is probably some of the worst advice I have ever seen on this forum.

If you can honestly tell me that when you ride XD cranks and then 75s that you feel no difference at all you have no reason being on a bike.

XD cranks flex a ridiculous amount compared to 75s. That is why their is such a price difference, its not just for bling factor jackass.
Tell the countless number of people who tour, fully loaded, using XD's that they are riding subpar cranks with too much flex and you'll probably get your ass handed to you by people who have a right to tell you that "you have no reason being on a bike". You're right that the price difference reflects more than just the "bling factor"(although the NJS certification certainly plays a big part in it!) but it has nothing to do with the flex you speak of - the 75's go through different forging, machining, and finishing processes than the XD's. I seriously doubt you can tell the difference unless you have the Six Million Dollar Man's legs. Granted chainring flex is more likely with a 110bcd but there's another even more likely possibility -
Originally Posted by dutret
Stiffness is also a non-issue on most bikes since the frame flex will dwarf crank flex.
While, AFAIK, this hasn't actually been proven, IMO what you're blaming on the crank is most likely actually the frame flexing. Think about it. A crank arm is a pretty stout piece of metal while your frame is a thin tube, steel or whatever it may be.
Originally Posted by mr_macgee
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Go back and read RichPugh's post. The XD2(the original XD was not) and 75(as well as the Grand Mighty) are cold forged while the RD is only labeled as forged, which could mean cold forged or maybe not. Why don't you go straight to the source? http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/contact_us_e.html
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