i'll have to do a little more research SB...i'm really more interested in staying with some state gov't type of work...seems to be a little more stable, generally a good 40-hr week, don't have to take work home, etc...

just looking at the PennDOT site...There are currently 17 Civil Engineers (Hydraulic) and 58 Senior Civil Engineers (Hydraulic). The majority of these job titles are located in the headquarters’ office of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection (DEP), Harrisburg, Dauphin County. so, i guess i'd like to see maybe that area or something that may be commutable to the office...

i don't care if it's not a metric...as you say, it's not any kind of training ride, but a nice social ride.