Originally Posted by
JinbaIttai
It is possible to ride a bicycle without being passionate about bicycle riding you know.
Many different types of people use bikes for a wide range of purposes.
I think what you are getting at is that a "cyclist" is like a zen master bicycle rider. And zen master bicycle riders wouldn't use a motor.

Most likely, a true zen master of anything would be smart enough to stay out of this discussion.
...Oh yeah, and when alot of folks meditate,their minds don't go totally blank; thought still cross every now and then. I think some might even make use of technology in the form of background sounds or something. Doesn't keep it from being a positive experience. Nor does it mean the meditator is mentally infirm or unfit.