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Old 12-17-04 | 06:25 AM
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I agree with gpsblake that the discussion about what went wrong can help us aboid similar problems. As to John Forester, Randya is correct, he isn't god. But he's mostly right. Most of his critics focus on making cyclists feel safer. Forester focuses on making cyclists be safer. Generally speaking, effective cycling supporters love to debate bicycle safety. Generally speaking, critics of Effective Cycling refuse to debate (there are exceptions to that rule in this forum).

I love this Notice of Close-Mindedness on the Bicyclesafe website:
Note to "Effective Cycling" fans: If you're about to send me an email telling me how stupid the advice on this site is, please save yourself the trouble. Trust me, I've heard all the arguments before (ad nauseum) and I simply disagree. I never write to EC websites to complain that I don't like THEIR advice, so I really wish you rabid EC's would stop sending insulting mail to ME.

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