Originally Posted by abneycat

sorry, i didn't mean to be completely negative about them - i'm not. Having more options is great, its just that they don't relate to me. They are very heavy and not built to be great bicycles. ...
I do appreciate that there are alternatives on the road, but they seem more like lsm's than e-bikes. Personally, i don't have any trouble with them being classified as e-bikes anymore though, as i've got to the point where anything is good to bring more light vehicles onto the road, and although they personally seem like lsm's, i don't think they're at a power level where people should be concerned about licensing either.

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