I know you're trying to be helpful, and you and I are clearly on opposite sides of this one, but really, who is so new that they've never seen a road bike before?

I dunno, maybe I'm just blind...I'm honestly not trying to be combative... maybe the guy who said it's all a result of the BD shills getting our hackles up was right...I know I'm certainly quick to get mad at those...

What I find amazing about this thread is that I think both sides of the argument are honestly just trying to defend what's right. I guess that's how you end up with a nation that votes 50/50.

Siu said it best about 1,000 posts ago.

I just hope that a few mods who sit on the opposite 50% from me can see that there are two sides to this argument and don't turn the forum into a boring encyclopedia of facts with no flavor.