the gr-9s aren't as good as the sylvan touring, or the super fresh sylvan streams ( same as touring, only narrower) for double toe straps.. but they do sort of work with a longer bolt..

let's be honest, most people dont cinch them down tight enough for the 2nd set to be any use anyway.. kids just like the look.. and for fixed gear stunning, aint nothing wrong with that.. but for function.. resin double gates, gr-9s (best platform for regular sneakers), and pake straps can't be beat, in my humble opinion..and they dont look 1/2 bad either.. yeeeeee.