Thanks Rob
I'm currently riding a toupe 143, love it, but I have have to be fixed on the back to be comfortable. So I went looking for a saddle that was longer so I could slide back and forth more. These two happened to be on sale and had some measure to protect against crotch discomfort (unlike the Fiziks). The SMP, though, just seems rather ridiculous to me. But I might change my mind if a "problem" develops.