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Old 12-10-08 | 12:35 PM
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Bikes: 1967 Paramount; 1982-ish Ron Cooper; 1978 Eisentraut "A"; two mid-1960s Cinelli Speciale Corsas; and others in various stages of non-rideability.

Originally Posted by Mike Mills
. . . To the best of my knowledge no one was using braze-ons for brake cables and deraileur cables in 1972. At best, it was extremely uncommon. Heck, my 1975 Bob Jackson did not have either and few others did, as well. . . .
A little confirmation here. I bought a Jackson frame new in 1975 (don't know the year it was built). It had nothing in the way of braze-ons except the cable housing stop on the right chain stay for the rear derailleur cable. Wait, I take that back - it may have had one set of water-bottle cage bosses on the down tube - maybe. But certainly nothing else.

It also had long, pointy extensions of the bottom bracket hanger running up the back of the seat tube and the underside of the down tube. It had no cable routers at the BB - and it really could have used them. The tab on the seat tube stopped before interfering with the front derailleur, but the down tube tab made putting on a separate cable guide a major pain in the nether regions.

That bike was stolen out of my garage c.1992. But I am absolutely certain about the absence of useful braze-ons, again with the one defeinite exception and the one possible exception.
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