cut off my nose to spite my face? "a special place in their hearts for the classic french standard!" aw, such artifice and reminisce!

No one, i mean no one, came in asking about 650b. of course, those that want 650b 'know where to go to get what they want', like randochap insinuates.

is there a movement afoot to bring back the other french standards???? will someone PLEASE start making french threaded bottom brackets and those 22.0 quill stems again? I can't stand sanding down a Nitto technomic to fit an old peugot....


someone is fanatical about constructeur, old french standards and reintroduction of an obsolete tire size to satisfy the whims and desires of the retrogrouch contingent, and it isn't me, randochap! take a look in the mirror, i browsed your website. egads.


...sorry to ride the lovers of 584 so hard, 650b's purported superiority over other tire sizes is difficult for me to swallow. 584 allowing an affected, purported poseur panache and the creation of a haughty bicycling standard as a north american niche market is much more likely.

Purveyors of 650b are duplicitous if they misrepresent 584 as providing a marked superiority over 26 or 700c sizes. this is part of the rallying cries of rivendell and jan heine to the 650b. i stand by my adjectives.

30mm difference in diameter between my 26" 559s and my touring 700c 622s.



that is all.