Originally Posted by
staehpj1
First... I didn't think those comments were all that out of line considering the nature of some of the posts he was replying to. Did he step over the line a bit, probably. Was he provoked, yes. There was some less than perfect manners shown on both sides. Big deal.
On whether I am "perhaps being blinded by Ryan singling you out for praise"...
No cut him some slack from the get go. I offered encouragement in posts 7 and 8 of the original thread. I offered him a place to stay in post 10 of the original thread. I did criticize the exorbitant requests for sponsoring expensive luxury items. I also criticized his proposed timetable and at various times gave other criticism. I also said that I didn't care for funding a tour with donations. I didn't criticize his ideals or his politics at any point though.
OTOH: When I did criticize, I did it in a more civil manner than some here. I applauded his ambition and idealism. Ryan said he was "a naïve young man with a dream" and maybe I am just a sucker for that, but I also remember what it was like to be young and a bit naive. I also remember the folks who were kind to me on the the road.
To Ryan's credit I think he is a quick learner and is willing to take advice. I believe he saw that the list of luxury items were a mistake and removed the list from the site. He saw that the time table was unreasonable and moved up the start.
Ryan made some irresponsible remarks, and in at least one instance a racist one. I thought the criticisms of him were fair, and I still do. The discussion wasn't helped by knee-jerk responses from certain posters; after seeing the extended misuse of the word "hate" I no longer have any expectations of literacy in folks on the Left.
That said, Ryan seems to have learned quite a bit for a man who was setting out to change others.