Neil, you read too much into my post. I'm not judging anyone. I'm relating what worked for me, and something that I found that applies to a lot of folks (the wanting part). If you don't want something, you aren't going to work for it. If you want it bad enough, you'll find a way. There are obviously exceptions.

I also understand that some folks want to be overweight, and are happy with where they are and who they are.

But there are others that I've met that say they are trying to lose weight, but they aren't doing anything to do so. No changes in diet, no increases in exercise. No effort or commitment to make it happen. It's like they think that the weight will come off on its own. That doesn't happen, as you well know.

The other danger is complacency.