See, now in Road Cycling we could argue over who's really not lightening up and start a massive flame war, everybody would join in, and there would be no problem. Over here two guys would complain to the moderators. Hey, I only have to live another 11 years and I can collect Social Security. That ROCKS. Of course they'll raise the age before I ever hit 60. I won't get a check from this government until I'm 75. If I even live that friggin long.