Originally Posted by divekrb
So if you have less than mentally stable friends who go around hitting bikes with hammers, you definitely want steel. And if you crash a lot. And if weight doesn't matter. And if you crash a lot.
Be forewarned. If you hit my bike with a hammer to prove some silly point, there's an excellent chance my bike will, by proxy, hit you back with said hammer. Then we can have a debate about steel vs. calcium for cranial repair.
Don't do this at home kids...
The bike had impact to the frame many times,( rocks, trees etc ) it has dents, many.
I know how much force it takes to mark the metal.
I was showing this specific metal = Tange Ritchey Logic supertubing.
It was not used as a frame tubing, intended for collars, forks, cable stops. 4mm chromoly.
The whole bikes made of the stuff- pre larger diameter Logic Prestige tubing by Tange.
My tubes are roughly half the diameter of big-size Aluminium tubes.
The bike has hit trees with enough force to have caused a failure of most large lightweight Aluminium tubings.
It makes a hell of a noise though = BOING!!!
Being a 14 yr old racing mtb frame it has been through a lot.
It will have gussets welded to it as it noodles and i'll run it downhill 'till it breaks.
It runs a chromoly fork, stem, seatpost, and braced DH bars, BIG tires for xc, it's 7spd mono-ring and weighs a
MASSIVE
21 pounds. He.
Bike has hit me a few times, maybe it was payback time.
Love=hate relationship. And it's a boy, names Ritchey.
Not like I was slapping a carbon fibre boutique ***** bike.
If I had cared I could have sanded, surfaced the tubes before paint, but the paint is simply black flat stove, as being a mtb, it'll continue to get marked. I mask the scratch and spray some more black.
In the pic, behind the top tube cable stay is a dent that seemed to suggest pre-factory paint.
Biggest hit, like 10 times the force I used. The bike is a prototype P-project series that featured metal type and 140mm rear drop frame spacing that rendered it non-production and it was mis-decalled. Worthless to collectors, it is a bike to be ridden, a test frame.
I test it a lot.

(test pilot).