Yeah I'm pretty much the same as everyone else, I'll pull forward to the line if I have/can see that the others won't be moving off too quickly, or I'll just wait and then giv'er at the green/pre-green. I'm pretty conscious about how the "go to the line" cyclists are seen, so I do my best to haul ass off the line and often pre-empt the green anyway to get ahead of the main traffic. So far it's been working out, I don't think I've pissed anyone off by doing what I've been doing.

Those guys that run the reds but meander along or push to the front only to start off at a roaring snails pace are where the anger is.

I'll always try and give chase, it's lots of fun and brings change/difference to a routine activity - I'll never forget the dude on an MTB with *huge* woolly socks one winter just blowing by me at a hell of a rate on the Bloor viaduct, I think I was on my road bike at the time too and I couldn't keep up in anyway.

I ordered a new set of Eggbeaters, and Ben M. (from the Thursday 100 group) has offered up a replacement drive side pedal, which is hugely kickass so I'll go get that tomorrow. I've put on my old SPD/platform pedals for now (though I rode with the broken pedal on today due to time/problems getting the pedal off with this mornings' attempt), and man do the SPD cleats ever feel different/stiff/rigid compared to the eggbeaters.