yeah and campy and shimano only make 180mm in dura-ace and record (i'm not even 100% on the record anymore what with all the carbon and whatnot).

I have a set of 185mm TA cranks on my main road bike. It's interesting, we have a fitting machine at work that will go up to 185mm crank size which I think it just great. I did a fitment, finally, yesterday and we found that at 180mm I was less efficient and produced less power than with 185mm. That was very interesting! I would love to run some tests on average sized riders and go from 165 up to 185 in 2.5mm increments to see if there is a bell shape to their efficiency and power. It's frustrating for us non-average sized people. I only have one bike with 185's which I am more efficient on than 180mm and I am stuck with 180s or 175s on my other bikes because I can't afford to buy a whole slew of custom 185mm cranks.. I wish I bought the NOS suntour CX pros that were on firstflight last year! Anyway I do have 180mm super record cranks on my gazelle, 180mm rival cranks on my cross bike and 180mm ritchey pro logic triple cranks on my LHT which are the important things, obviously I'm not going to run 180 on my fixed gear, though I wouldn't mind moving up to 172.5s from my 170s.

okay end rant...

this is exciting for me:
armsets up to 185!!!

http://www.surlybikes.com/new/crank_pop.html