Originally Posted by
mjw16
And there it is........It's funny how a debate such as this typically devolves into name calling and insults. Although I'm often labelled an "anti-gun, liberal sheep", the irony is that I'm not necassarily anti gun-I know that there are many, legitimate sporting uses for certan guns. I personall enjoy shooting, when I have the chance. I am, however, also anti-gun violance/death/proliferation, etc. I don't think that's an unreasonable stance or worthy of insult. In my experience, the gun advocates simply want their guns and imagine myriad scenarios where they are able to use them (usually involving the shooting of "perps" and defending damsels in distress) thereby justifying the carrying of said weapon (s). The statistics do not bear out those scenarios-not even close. A handgun in one's home or on one's person is many, many times more likely to be a liability to the owner, rather than a safety measure. They then turn to personal attacks when confronted with logic, reason, statistical evidence, etc. It seems that it's somehow threatening to their manhood when the main thrust of their fantasy is undermined through this debate. Another thing I've learned, is that they are so attached to the notion of guns as empowering, life-saving, testosterone pills that they will never concede any part of their perspective so, I reserve my advice for those who are on the fence about gun ownership/carrying. I hope the original poster makes the smart choice, it's obvious to the more informed among us: take a safer route, ride at safe times, leave the gun at home. I mean, carrying a gun while your riding your bike....think about how silly that sounds.
And that, sir, is your problem. You "know there are legitmate sporting uses...". That's the same nonsense people who think firearm ownership is about hunting always parrot. Then you use the false stats about handguns. Another poster in this thread posted the Kleck statistics. The NRA magazines have a column titled "The Armed Citizen" which is full EVERY MONTH of stories where armed citizens WITH HANDGUNS defend themselves. But still you cling to your elitist beliefs. And then you go on your "I know better", paternalistic rant about testosterone pills and such. You did everything short of calling them phallic symbols. Very nice.