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Old 02-04-09 | 06:23 PM
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VoodooTiger
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Originally Posted by lil brown bat
Except that they're not "stats" and they're not "facts". They're soundbite conclusions drawn from sources that aren't fully referenced. Not stats...not facts.
But they are facts and stats. How would you like me to reference them? Gary Kleck, a criminologist who was studying to prove that guns were dangerous found this stat and fact that 2.5 million people defended themselves with a gun. He found that number by his own research and citing the National Crime Victim Survey. His book was cited in a Supreme Court case. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Kleck) Would you like me to read you the book? Here is a website http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/kleck2.html or http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/kleck1.html

What about the Bureau of Justice?: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/

or the FBI?: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/index.html

more surveys: http://www.guncite.com/kleckandgertztable1.html
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdguse.html

Government findings: http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/lott.pdf
http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/165476.pdf

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