Look, before this gets much further, I'm not advocating this practice, nor am I discouraging folks from doing whatever the hell they want to their bikes. I just hear a lot of people making bold statements without photographic documentation. You know how BFers are about photos, and I quote "No pics, didn't happen", so I'm just curious why this rampant classic bicycle destroying talk is never accompanied by a photo. So please, let's not turn this into another "debate" thread, just come with some pictures or don't post. Again, thanks for your understanding.