I've got several thousand miles on both Ventoux 2's and Z11 Ti's and both work great. The Ventouxs are a tad easier to clip in and out of. The cleats that come with them took more effort than I liked to clip out--I run the Look Delta black cleats and I'm a happy camper. Used to use SPD's, which were a revelation after years of toe clips, but feel like mush now. Tried Speedplay Light Actions last year which felt even mushier than SPDs to me, but I'm a no-float kind of guy.