Well, for one I've never owned a pair of Deep V's (those were Aeroheads on the Anchor) and two, I never denied that I too was into the NJS thing. I never tried to go for a near full NJS build (why try when Kashimax saddles suck and Thomson seatposts are nicer than Nitto?) but I got bit by the big for sure. Three NJS frames under my belt. If the prices weren't so inflated I'd still ride them. But overall, in my mind Italian > NJS these days...