Originally Posted by
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As a general rule of thumb, any frame made of Reynolds, Columbus or Miyata tubing is a very decent bike. A bit of a step down but still good are Tange, Ishiwata, etc.
Tange and Ishiwata have/had a range of tubing similar to Reynolds and Columbus, including some very high end tubesets. An advantage may be that they often do not sell for the inflated prices of Reynolds or Columbus.