yeah i'm trying to get some hopes too, wanna have a good wheelset come summer, already got some xm819s in waiting for hubs, even with my discount hope hubs are really pricey, and they are overpriced in the qbp book which i lame. So unless i get some more cash, i'm lookin on ebay for hopes or the magical chris kings. One thing I can tell you I'll prolly do is run a good rear hub, and then just and xt front hub (the older style 6 bolt 756) cause the quality matters more in the rear what with the freehub and all that, whos ever had reliability issues with looseball front hubs.