Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
Might as well be riding a hybrid with all this talk of nose-up saddles and upright positioning
However, Looks like most of you ride in a fairly agressive position.......2-4"
You still haven't gotten the point that not all road bikes are racing bikes. And there is a significant difference between a "hybrid" and various non-racing road bikes (like touring, sport touring and randonneuring bikes).
In any case saddle to bars drop doesn't tell the whole story about how "aggressive" anyone's position is. Many people buy racing bikes with lots of drop and end up riding on the tops or hoods all the time. I only have 1-2" of drop, but I can fight headwinds all day by riding in the drops. Plus, I still get a comfortable position on the hoods.