well actually I was thinking about a Giant TCR Advanced 3...but something keeps drawing me to the 2008 Litespeed Siena...lol...ill tell you one thing, its not the price!! there is about a $1K difference...but I just thought that the 2008 Siena would be better down the road if the money was not an issue...but do you guys think the Litespeed Siena is too much for a roadie beginner??