i dont get how any of you could just not SEE somebody else on a bike. i mean, do you ride in caves? remote jungles? forest areas? maybe i just havent ridden around in enough places, but i really dont have a hard time seeing things around my neck of the woods (note: not actually woods) even when there arent street lights. i live in an urban area, so there it doesnt get that dark, but this guy is in denver. its not like hes on some unlit highway out in the country.

obviously im not against using lights, of course they make you more conspicuous to cars, but bikes? are you just off in lalaland, and you need to see a light to snap back to attentive mode? im baffled.

if anybody ever hit me bike on bike, id give em an earful, and depending on the damage done, i might kick the **** out of them. seriously how stupid/oblivious/aloof do you have to be to hit another biker?

disagree if you want, but i just dont see how two attentive riders (im assuming they both have eyeballs, and arent admiring their glow in the dark oury grips or their purple anodized bar/stem setup while riding 20+mph) could ever run into one another. are we talking head on collision? t-bone? coming around a blind corner? rear ending somebody is out of the question right? or am i giving people too much credit?

i mean for two bikers to hit, both of them have to be unable to see the other rider right?

please explain to me how this could possibly occur.

my guess is that you all ride in caves. lulz